Comments on: Obama’s 100% negative lie http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:30:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Vontraplexium http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-369 Vontraplexium Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:49:36 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-369 Things that i tell you are useful and truthful. Yet they are complete lies. How can this be? Well, you learn something new everyday. Something that is a lie can be true at the same time. the event could happen, but it didn't. the info couldn't not be true- so there. see my blog post <a href="http://vontraplexium.blogspot.com/2009/04/complete-rubbish.html" rel="nofollow">Complete rubbish</a> Things that i tell you are useful and truthful. Yet they are complete lies.
How can this be? Well, you learn something new everyday.
Something that is a lie can be true at the same time.
the event could happen, but it didn’t.
the info couldn’t not be true-
so there.

see my blog post Complete rubbish

]]> By: peter http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-344 peter Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:52:29 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-344 I think your normal conversation example is actually a really good one for this in context. In my conversations, I absolutely would call someone out for making a absolute or untrue-sounding statement like this. I'd give them an opportunity to correct or clarify, and if they don't, and it's still not true, and they knew it was untrue, I'd consider them a liar. This is exactly what happened in the town hall format - Obama made a statement, McCain called him out on it, and Obama insisted. I think your normal conversation example is actually a really good one for this in context.

In my conversations, I absolutely would call someone out for making a absolute or untrue-sounding statement like this. I’d give them an opportunity to correct or clarify, and if they don’t, and it’s still not true, and they knew it was untrue, I’d consider them a liar.

This is exactly what happened in the town hall format - Obama made a statement, McCain called him out on it, and Obama insisted.

]]> By: Canumbler http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-343 Canumbler Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:05:51 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-343 The problem with getting all upset over a candidate saying "100%" instead of "almost all" is that getting upset over it is the reason that candidates have to weasel their words all the time and speak in the tortuous way they do. If someone said this to you in normal conversation would you believe them to be a "liar"? Or would you dismiss it as exaggeration. The problem with getting all upset over a candidate saying “100%” instead of “almost all” is that getting upset over it is the reason that candidates have to weasel their words all the time and speak in the tortuous way they do.

If someone said this to you in normal conversation would you believe them to be a “liar”? Or would you dismiss it as exaggeration.

]]> By: Rikroc http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-342 Rikroc Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:16:57 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-342 I agree with Canumbler, I read the "100% negative" report from the Wisconsin Advertising Project in our local paper days before the debate. Seems many of the lies on the blue side are of the "I didn't eat the cupcake!" variety while on the red side they're more along the lines of "The baby is yours". I agree with Canumbler, I read the “100% negative” report from the Wisconsin Advertising Project in our local paper days before the debate. Seems many of the lies on the blue side are of the “I didn’t eat the cupcake!” variety while on the red side they’re more along the lines of “The baby is yours”.

]]> By: Dschonn http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-315 Dschonn Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:09:30 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-315 I don't think this is nitpicky at all. Using a term like 100% leaves no wiggle room. If he'd said something like "almost all" then we could have called it an exaggeration, but "100%" is just false. I don’t think this is nitpicky at all. Using a term like 100% leaves no wiggle room. If he’d said something like “almost all” then we could have called it an exaggeration, but “100%” is just false.

]]> By: Canumbler http://liecount.com/2008/10/17/obamas-100-negative-lie/#comment-314 Canumbler Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:46:40 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=574#comment-314 So it was just 100% of the ads in a week just before the debate? This is pretty nitpicky. So it was just 100% of the ads in a week just before the debate? This is pretty nitpicky.

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