Comments on: Obama’s lies on McCain’s education record http://liecount.com/2008/09/12/obamas-lies-on-mccains-education-record/ Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:47:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Elaine Gramham http://liecount.com/2008/09/12/obamas-lies-on-mccains-education-record/#comment-380 Elaine Gramham Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:06:53 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=151#comment-380 Education is certainly a vital field, because almost everything in civilization is determined by education. I saw that on a website someplace -- a non-profit organization in the Philippines. Teachers gives their very best at their craft (the majority of them, anyway). But there are a few who seem to have a gift to inspire. My senior high school world history teacher was one of those. She had lived in China as a kid. When she taught in Rockville, Maryland, you could actually feel the wisdom of all her experience. She didn't have us memorize dates. Which had been the first brilliant thing I had been told by a history tutor. What she said next took the subject several magnitudes higher in value. She wanted us to know the motivations of history -- the deeply visceral, human aspects of what can somewhat be a deadly dry subject. Jaime Escalante of "Stand and Deliver" fame, dared to dream big. Calculus for the typically dropout crowd? Pushing them to go on to college? Wow. And I have this publication called, "Calculus Made Easy," by Sylvanus P. Thompson, first published in 1910. It's been through lots of printings all to generate an easy subject simple. What can we do to create more teachers who inspire world-changing superiority? Einstein once said that imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge can provide the inspiration. Imagination can take you to the stars. Don't our children ought to get better? Education is certainly a vital field, because almost everything in civilization is determined by education. I saw that on a website someplace — a non-profit organization in the Philippines. Teachers gives their very best at their craft (the majority of them, anyway). But there are a few who seem to have a gift to inspire. My senior high school world history teacher was one of those. She had lived in China as a kid. When she taught in Rockville, Maryland, you could actually feel the wisdom of all her experience. She didn’t have us memorize dates. Which had been the first brilliant thing I had been told by a history tutor. What she said next took the subject several magnitudes higher in value. She wanted us to know the motivations of history — the deeply visceral, human aspects of what can somewhat be a deadly dry subject. Jaime Escalante of “Stand and Deliver” fame, dared to dream big. Calculus for the typically dropout crowd? Pushing them to go on to college? Wow. And I have this publication called, “Calculus Made Easy,” by Sylvanus P. Thompson, first published in 1910. It’s been through lots of printings all to generate an easy subject simple. What can we do to create more teachers who inspire world-changing superiority? Einstein once said that imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge can provide the inspiration. Imagination can take you to the stars. Don’t our children ought to get better?

]]> By: eric http://liecount.com/2008/09/12/obamas-lies-on-mccains-education-record/#comment-67 eric Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:18:53 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=151#comment-67 Pretty sure that quote could be easily considered "forming an intention", but it's kinda moot because I doubt McCain is still seriously entertaining the idea of abolishing the DoE. Either way, an unfortunate and unnecessary choice of words. Unecessary because McCain's education platform is so weak it doesn't need any embellishing. Vilifying teachers and stumping for ridiculous vouchers aren't exactly great education talking points. Pretty sure that quote could be easily considered “forming an intention”, but it’s kinda moot because I doubt McCain is still seriously entertaining the idea of abolishing the DoE. Either way, an unfortunate and unnecessary choice of words. Unecessary because McCain’s education platform is so weak it doesn’t need any embellishing. Vilifying teachers and stumping for ridiculous vouchers aren’t exactly great education talking points.

]]> By: peter.centofante http://liecount.com/2008/09/12/obamas-lies-on-mccains-education-record/#comment-65 peter.centofante Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:06:16 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=151#comment-65 proposal implies activity. <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propose" rel="nofollow">Webster</a>:1: to form or put forward a plan or intention In the legislative sense, it refers to putting a bill or idea forward for others to consider and vote on. It's fair to say that he favors it based on his quote, but to say that he's put it forward or made it a priority ("proposed") is not true. proposal implies activity.
Webster:1: to form or put forward a plan or intention
In the legislative sense, it refers to putting a bill or idea forward for others to consider and vote on.

It’s fair to say that he favors it based on his quote, but to say that he’s put it forward or made it a priority (”proposed”) is not true.

]]> By: Michael http://liecount.com/2008/09/12/obamas-lies-on-mccains-education-record/#comment-64 Michael Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:01:08 +0000 http://liecount.com/?p=151#comment-64 Does it have to be proper legislation to be a proposal? If you have a direct quote from the man saying he would "favor doing away with it" in regards to the Department of Education I think you've got a fair confirmation that he's for getting rid of the Dept. Proposing something doesn't have to mean a formal submission of legislation does it? Or am I just reading this thing entirely wrong? As for points 2 and 3 - a fair shake and a proper tally as far as I can tell. I just dispute point 1. Does it have to be proper legislation to be a proposal? If you have a direct quote from the man saying he would “favor doing away with it” in regards to the Department of Education I think you’ve got a fair confirmation that he’s for getting rid of the Dept. Proposing something doesn’t have to mean a formal submission of legislation does it? Or am I just reading this thing entirely wrong?

As for points 2 and 3 - a fair shake and a proper tally as far as I can tell. I just dispute point 1.

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